do in response to this. because i think they're in line now with trump or is there still a rebellion? that could be important. i think we'll watching mike pence and seeing how close he was. this was a missed nunt many ways for donald trump. >> missed any of the debate earlier this evening. you can see it in it's entirety right now. >> good evening, i'm from abc news. we to want welcome you to washington university in st. louis for the second presidential debate against hillary clinton and donald trump. sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's debate is a town hall format which gives voters a chance to directly ask the candidates question. martha and i will ask follow-up questions. the night belongs to this room and the people who submitted questions online. >> the people you see on the stage were chosen by the gallop organization. they are all from the st. louis area and poll gallop they haven't committed to a candidate. each of them came here with

questions they want to ask and we we saw those questions for the first time this morning. anderson and i and our team from abc and cnn are the only ones who have seen them. both candidates will have two minutes to answer each audience and online question. we hope to get to as many questions as we can. we've asked the audience here not to slow things down with any applause. except for now. ladies and gentlemen, the republican nominee for president, donald j. trump and the democratic nominee for president, hillary clinton. [ applause ] >> thank you very much for being

here. we're going to begin with a question from one of the members in our town hall, each will have two minutes to respond. secretary clinton, you won the coin toss, you'll go first. first question comes from patrice brooke. >> thank you and good evening. the last presidential debate could have been rated as ma, mature audiences. knowing the educators since i'm doing the presidential debate for student's homework. do you feel you're modelling appropriate and positive behavior for today's youth? >> thank you. are you a teacher? um, yes, i think that's a very good question because i've heard from lots of teachers and parents about some of their concerns about some of the things that are being said and done. during this campaign. and i think it is very important for us to make clear to our children that our country really is great because we're good.

and we are going to respect one another, lift each other up, we are going to be looking for ways to celebrate our diversity and we are going to try to reach out to every boy and girl as well as every adult to bring them in to working on behalf of our country. i have a very positive and optimistic view about what we can do together. that's why the slogan of my campaign is "stronger together." i think if we work together, if we overcome the divisiveness that sometimes sets americans against one another, and instead, we make some big goals and i've set forth some big goals getting the economy to work for everyone, not just those at the top, making sure that we have the best education system from preschool through college and making it affordable. and so much else. if we set those goals and we go together to try to achieve them,

there's nothing, in my opinion, that america can't do. that's why i hope that we will come together in this campaign, obviously i'm hoping to earn your vote, i'm hoping to be elected in november, and i can promise you, i will work with every american. i want to be the president for all americans. regardless of your political beliefs, where you come from, what you look like, your religion. i want us to heal our country and bring it together because that's, i think, the best way for us to get the future that our children and our grandchildren deserve. >> secretary clinton, thank you, mr. trump, you have two minutes. >> actually i agree with that. i agree with everything she said. i began this campaign because i was so tired of seeing such foolish things happen to our country. this is a great country. this is a great land. i've gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a half that i've been doing this as a politician. i cannot believe i'm saying that about myself, but i guess i have

been a politician. and my whole concept was to make america great again. when i watch the deals being made, when i watch horrible things like obama care and your health insurance and health care is going up by numbers that are astronomical, 68%, 59%, 71%, when i look at the iran deal and how bad a deal it is for us, it's a one-sided transaction, where we're giving back $150 billion to a terror state really, the number one terror state, we have made them a strong country from really a very weak country just three years ago. when i look at all of the things that i see and all of the potential that our country has, we have such tremendous potential, whether it's in business and trade, where we're doing so badly. last year we had an almost $800 billion trade deficit. in other words, trading with other countries. we had an $800 billion deficit.

it's hard to believe. inconceivable. you say who is making these deals? we're going to make great trade deals. we're going to have a strong border. we're going to bring back law and order, just today policeman was shot. two killed. and this is happening on a weekly basis. we have to bring back respect to law enforcement. at the same time, we have to take care of people in all sides. we need justice. but i want to do things that haven't been done, including fixing and making our inner cities better for the african american citizens that are so great and for the latinos, the hispanics. >> two minutes is up. >> and i look forward to doing it. it's called make america great again. >> thank you, mr. trump. the question from patrice was are you about model positive and appropriate behaves for today's youth. we received a lot of questions online, mr. trump, about the tape that was released on friday. as you can imagine, you called what you said locker room

banter. you described kissing them without consent grabbing their genitals. you bragged that you sexually assaulted women. do you understand that? >> no i didn't say that at all. i don't think you understood that this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologize to my family. i apologize to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk. you know, when we have a world where you have isis chopping off heads, where you have -- and frankly drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over. where you have so many things happening. this is like medieval times. we haven't seen anything like this, the carnage all over the world. and they look and they see. you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us with isis? and they look at our country and they see what is going on? yes, i'm very embarrassed by it. i hate it. but it's locker room talk. and it's one of those things. i will knock the hell out of

isis. we're going to defeat isis. isis happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. and i will tell you, i will take care of isis and we should get on to much more important things and much bigger things. >> mr. trump, just for the record, though, are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, that you actually did not kiss women without consent or grope women without consent. >> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women than i do. >> so for the record you're saying you never did that? >> i said things that frankly you hear these things are said. and i was embarrassed by it. but i have tremendous respect for women. >> have you ever done those things? >> and i will tell you, no, have i not. and i will tell you that i'm going to make our country safe. we're going to have borders in our country, which we don't have now. people are pouring into our country. and they're coming in from the middle east and other places. we're going to make america safe again. we're going to make america great again. but we're going to make america safe again. and we're going to make america wealthy again.

if you don't do that, it just -- it sounds harsh to say, but we have to build up the wealth. >> thank you, mr. trump. >> now other nations are taking our jobs and they're taking our wealth. that's what i want to talk about. >> secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> well, like everyone else? i spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours. about what we heard and saw. you know, with prior republican nominees for president, i disagreed with them. on politics, policies, principles, but i never questioned their fitness to serve. donald trump is different. i said starting back in june that he was not fit to be president and commander in chief. and many republicans and independents have said the same thing. what we all saw and heard on friday was donald talking about

women. what he thinks about women. what he does to women. and he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. because we've seen this throughout the campaign. we have seen him insult women. we have seen him rate women on their appearance, ranking them from 1 to 10. we've seen him embarrass women on tv and on twitter. we saw him after the first debate spend near lay week denigrating a former miss universe in the harshest most personal terms. so yes, this is who donald trump is. but it's not only women, and it's not only this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president.

because he has also targeted immigrants, african americans, latinos, people with disabilities, p.o.w.s, muslims, and so many others. so this is who donald trump is. and the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. that's why to go back to your question, i want to send a message. we all should to every boy and girl, and indeed to the entire world that america already is great. but we are great because we are good. and we will respect one another. and we will work with one another. and we will celebrate our diversity. these are very important values to me. because this is the america they know and love. and i can pledge to you tonight that this is the america that i will serve if i'm so fortunate enough to become your president.

>> and we want to get to some questions -- >> well, i'd like to respond that. i assume i am. >> yes, you can respond to that. >> it's just words, folks. it's just words. those words, i've been hearing them from for many years. i heard them when they were running for the senate in new york when hillary was going bring back jobs to upstate new york. an she failed. i heard them where hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country, which are a disaster education wise, job wise, safety wise, in every way possible. i'm going to help the african americans. i'm going help the latinos, the hispanics. i am going to help the inner cities. she has done a terrible job for the african americans. she wants their vote and she does nothing. and then she comes back four years later. we saw that firsthand when she was united states senator. she campaigned where the -- >> mr. trump, mr. trump, i want

to get to audience questions and online questions. >> so she is allowed to do that, but i'm not aloud to respond? >> you're going get to respond right now. >> sounds fair thinking tape is generating intense interest. in just 48 hours, it's become the single most talked about story of the entire 2016 election on facebook. with millions and millions of people discussing it on the social network. as we said a moment ago, we do want to bring in questions and our first on this topic jeff from ohio says the trump campaign has changed him. when did that happen? so mr. trump, let me add to that. when you walked off the bus at age tonight were you a different man or did that behavior continue until just recently. >> that was locker room talk. i'm a person who has great

respect for people, for my family, for people of this country. certainly i'm not proud of it. that was something that happened. if you look at bill clinton, far worse. mine are words and his was action. his is what he has done to women there has never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that has been so abusive to women. so you can say any way you want to say it, but bill clinton was abuse alternative women. hillary clinton attacked those women and attacked them viciously. four of them are here tonight. one of the women who is a wonderful woman at 12 years old was raped at 12. her client she represented got him off and she is seen laughing on two different occasions laughing a at the girl that was raped. kathy shelton, that young woman is here with us tonight. so don't tell me about words. i am absolutely i apologize for those words.

but it is things that people say. but what president clinton did, he was impeached. he lost his license to practice law. he had to pay $850,000 fine to one of the woman. paula jones is also here tonight. and i will tell you when hillary brings up a point like that and talks about words 11 years ago, i think it's disgraceful and she should be ashamed of herself if you want to know the truth. >> [ applause ] >> can we please hold the applause. secretary clinton you have two minutes. first, let me start by saying so much of what he said is not right. he gets to run his campaign any way he choose. he gets to decide what he wants to talk about. instead of answering people's

questions, talking about our agenda, laying out the plans that we have that we think request make a better life and a better country, that's his choice. when i hear something like that, i am reminded of what my friend michelle obama advised us all. when they go low you go high. [ cheering ] and look, if this were just about one video, maybe what he is saying tonight would be understandable. but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about the man in the video or the man in the stage respects women. but he never apologizes for anything to anyone. he never apologized to mr. and mrs. khan, the gold star family whose son captain khan died in the line of duty in iraq. and donald insulted and attacked

them for weeks over their religion. he never apologized to the distinguished federal judge who was born in indiana. but donald said he couldn't be trusted to be a judge because his parents were, quote, mexican. he never apologized to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked on national television, and our children were watching. and he never apologized for the racist lie that president obama that president obama was not born in the united states of america. he owes the president an apology. he owes our country an apology. and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and his words. >> well, you owe the president an apology because as you know, very well, your campaign, sidney blumenthal, he is another real win they're you have. and he is the one that got this started along with your campaign manager.

and they were on television just two weeks ago, she was, saying exactly that. so you really owe him an apology. you're the one that sent the pictures around your campaign, sent the pictures around with president obama in a certain garb. that was long before i was ever involved. you actually owe an apology. number two, michelle obama. i've gotten to see the commercials that they did on you. and i've gotten to see some of the most vicious commercials i've ever seen of michelle obama talking about you, hillary. so you talk about friend, go back and take a look at those commercials, a race where you lost fair and square, unlike the bernie sanders race where you won but not fair and square in my opinion. and all you have to do is take a look at wikileaks and see what they said about bernie sanders and see what debbie wasserman schultz had in mind. because bernie sanders between superdelegates and debbie wasserman schultz, he never had a chance.

and i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. but when you talk about apology, i think the one you should really be apologizing for and the thing that you should be apologizing for are the 33,000 e-mails that you deleted, and that you acid washed. and then the two boxes of e-mails and other things last week that were taken from an office and are now missing. and i'll tell you what. i didn't think i'd say this, but i'm going to say it. and i hate to say it. but if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. because there has never been so many lies so, much deception. there has never been anything like it. and we're going to have a special prosecutor. when i speak, i go out and speak. the people of this country are furious. in my opinion, the people that are long-term workers at the fbi are furious.

there has never been anything like this where emaims, and you get a subpoena. you get a subpoena. and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 e-mails. and then you acid wash them or bleach them, as you would say. a very expensive process. so we're going to get a special prosecutor. and we're going to look into it. because you know what? people have been -- their lives have been destroyed for doing 1/5 of what you have done. it's a disgrace and honestly you ought to be ashamed. >> secretary, i'm i want to follow up on that. >> everything he said is absolutely false. but i'm not surprised. in the first debate, in the first debase. >> and really, the audience needs to calm down here. >> it would be impossible to be fact checking donald all the time. i'd never get to talk about anything i want to do and how we're going to make lives better for people. so once again, go to hillaryclinton.com. we have literally trump you. fact check him in realtime.

last time at the first debate we had millions of people fact checking. so i expect we'll have millions more fact checking because, you know, it is awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you'd be in jail. >> secretary clinton -- >> we want to remind the audience to please not talk out loud. please do not applaud. you're just wasting time. >> and secretary clinton, i do want to follow up on emails. you said your handling of your e-mails was a mistake. you disagreed with your fbi director james comey calling your handling of classified information, quote, extremely careless. the fbi said there were 110 classified e-mails exchanged eight of top secret and it was possible hostile actors did gain access to those e-mails. you don't call that extremely

careless? >> i've said it before and i'll repeat it, because i want everyone to hear it. that was a mistake. and i take responsibility for using a personal e-mail account. obviously if i were to do it over again, i would not. i'm not making any excuses. it was mistake. and i am very sorry about that. but i think it's also important to point out where there are some misleading accusations from critics and others. after a year-long investigation, there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server i was using, and there is no evidence that anyone can point to at all, anyone who says otherwise has any basis that any classified material ended much the wrong hands. i take classified materials very seriously an always have. when i was on the senate armed services committee, i was privy to a lot of classified material.

obviously as secretary of state i had some of the most important secrets that we possess, such as going after bin laden. so i am very committed to taking classified information seriously. and as i said, there is no evidence that any classified information ended up in the wrong hands. >> we're going to move on. >> and yet she didn't know the word, the letter c on a document, right? she didn't even know what that word -- what that letter meant. you know, it's amazing. i'm watching hillary go over facts. and she is going fact after fact, and she is lying again because she said she what she did with the e-mails was fine you. think it's fine to delete 33,000 e-mails? i don't think so. she said the 33,000 e-mails had to do with her daughter's wedding, number one, and a yoga class. well, maybe we'll give three or four or. 33,000 e-mails deleted. and now she is saying there isn't anything wrong.

and more importantly, that was after getting a subpoena. that wasn't before. that was after. she got it from the united states congress. and i'll be honest. i'm so disappointed in congressmen, including republicans for allowing this to happen. our justice department where her husband goes on to the back of an airplane for 39 minutes, talks to the attorney general days before a ruling is going to be made in her case. but for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000 e-mails, again, you should be ashamed of yourself what you did. and that is after getting a subpoena from the united states congress. >> we have to move on, mrs. clinton, you can respond and we have to move on. >> we want to give the audience a chance here. >> let alone after getting a subpoena from the united states. >> secretary clinton, you can respond, but we have to move on. >> look, it's just not true. >> oh, you didn't delete them? >> allow her to respond. >> personal e-mails, not official. >> 33,000? >> well, we turn over 35,000.

>> what about the other 15,000? >> please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. >> yes, that's true. i didn't. and i didn't in the first debate. and i'm going to try not to in this debate because i'd like to get to the questions that people have brought here tonight to talk to us about. >> and get off this question. >> okay, donald. i know you're into big diversion tonight. anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and the way republicans are leaving you. >> let's see what happens. >> allow her to respond. >> the issues that people care about tonight. let's get to their questions. >> we have a question here from ken. he has a question about health care. ken? >> i'd like to know, anderson, why aren't you bringing up the e-mails? i'd like to know. >> we brought up the e-mails. >> no, it hasn't. and it hasn't been finished all. >> ken has a question. >> nice one on three. >> thank you. affordable care act known as obamacare, it is not affordable.

premiums have gone up. deductibles have gone up. copays have gone up. prescriptions have gone up. and the coverage has gone down. what will you do to bring the costs down and make coverage better? >> that first one goes to secretary clinton because you started out the last one to the audience. >> he wants to start, he can go. no, go ahead, hillary. >> no, i'm a gentleman. go ahead. >> well, i think donald was about to say he is going to solve it by repealing it and getting rid of the affordable care act. and i'm going to fix it. because i agree with you. premiums have gotten too high, copay, deductible, prescription drug costs. and i've laid out a series of actions that we can take to try to get those costs down. but here is what i don't want people to forget. when we're talking about reigning in the costs, which has to be the highest priority of the next president, when the affordable care act passed, it

wasn't just that 20 million people who got insurance who didn't have it before, but that in itself was a good thing. i meet these people all the time and they tell me what a difference having that insurance meant to them and their families. but everybody else, the 170 million of us who get health insurance through our employers got big benefits. number one, insurance companies can't deny you coverage because of a preexisting kwn. condition. number two, no lifetime limits, which is a big deal if you have serious health problems. number three, women can't be charged more than men for our health insurance, which is the way it used to be before the affordable care act. number four, if you're under 26 and your parents have a policy, you can be on that policy until the age of 26. something that didn't happen before. so i want very much to save what works and is good about the affordable care act. but we've got to get costs down.

we've got to provide some additional help to small businesses so that they can afford to provide health insurance. but if we repeal it as donald has proposed and start over again, all of those benefits i just mentioned are lost to everybody. not just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. and then we would have to start all over again. right now we're at 90% health insurance coverage. that's the highest we've ever been in our country. >> secretary clinton, your time is up. >> i want us to get to 100 but get cost downs and keep quality up. >> mr. trump, you have two minutes. >> it is such a great question. and it's maybe the question i get almost more than anything else. outside of defense. obamacare is a disaster. you know it. we all know it. it's going up at numbers that nobody has ever seen worldwide. nobody has ever seen numbers like this for health care. it's only getting worse. in '17 is it implodes by itself.

their method of fixing it is to go back and ask congress for more money. more and more money. and we have right now almost $20 trillion in debt. obamacare will never work. it's very bad, very bad health insurance. far too expensive. and not only expensive for the person that has it, unbelievably expensive for our country. it's going to be one of the biggest line items very shortly. we have to repeal it and replace it with something absolutely much less expensive and something that works where your plan can actually be tailored. we have to get rid of the lines around the states, artificial lines where we stop insurance comes from coming in and competing. because they want president obama and whoever was working on it, they want to leave those lines because that gives insurance companiesblely monopolies. we want competition. you will have the finest health care plan there is. she wants to go to a single

payer plan, which would be a disaster, somewhat similar to canada. if you ever notice the canadians, when they need a big operation that. >> come into the united states in many cases because their system is so slow, it's catastrophic in certain ways. but she wants to go to single pair, which means the government basically rules everything. hillary clinton has been after this for years. obamacare was the first step. obamacare is a total disaster. and not only are your rate goings up by numbers that nobody has ever believed, but your deductibles are going up. so that unless you get hit by a truck, you're never going to be able to use it. it is a disastrous plan and it has to be repealed and replaced. >> secretary clinton, let me follow up with you. your husband called obamacare the craziest thing in the world saying small business owners are getting killed as premiums doubled, coverage is getting cut in half. was he mistaken or telling the

truth? >> he clarified what he meant. it's very clear. we're in a situation in our country where if we were to start all over again, we might come up with a different system. but we have an employer-based system. that's where the vast majority of people get their health care. and the affordable care act was meant to try to fill the gap between people who were too poor and couldn't put together any resources to afford health care, namely people on medicaid. obviously medicare, which is a single payer system, which takes care of our elderly, and does a great job doing it, by the way, and then all the people who were employed. but people who were working but didn't have the money to afford insurance and didn't have anybody, an employer or anybody else to help them. that was the slot that the obamacare approach was to take. and 20 million people now have health insurance. so if we just rip it up and throw it away, what donald is

not telling you is we just turn it back to the insurance companies the way it used to be. and that means the insurance companies get to do pretty much whatever they want, including saying look, i'm sorry, you got diabetes, you had cancer, your child has asthma. >> your time is up. >> you may not be able to have insurance because you can't afford it. so let's fix what's broken about it. but let's not throw it away and give it all back to the insurance companies. >> let me follow up with you mr. trump. >> one thing. everything is broken about it. number two, bernie sanders said that hillary clinton has very bad judgment. this is a perfect example of it. >> mr. trump. >> trying to save obamacare. >> you said you want to end obamacare. you also said you want the make coverage accessible to people with preexisting conditions. how do you force insurance companies to do that if you're no longer mandating? what does that mean? >> i'll tell you what it means. you're going have plans that are so good because we're going to have so much competition in the

insurance industry. once we break out the lines that allow the competition to come. >> are you going to have a mandate that americans have to have health insurance? >> excuse me. president obama by keeping those lines, the boundary lines around each state, and it was almost gone until just very end of the passage of obamacare. which by the way was a fraud. you know that. because jonathan grouper, it was a big lie. president obama said you keep your doctor, you keep your plan. the whole thing was a fraud and it doesn't work. but when we get rid of those lines, you have competition. and we will be able to keep preexisting. we'll also be able to help people who can't get, don't have money. because we are going to have people protected. and republicans feel this way. believe it or not, and strongly this way. we're going to block grant into the states. we're going to block grand into medicaid. >> thank you, mr. trump so, we will be able to take care of people without the necessary

funds to take care of themselves. >> thank you, mr. trump. >> we now go to gorba hamid with a question for both candidates. >> hi there are 3.3 million muslims in the united states and i'm one of them. you mentioned working with muslim nation nation. but with islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me with the consequences of being labeled as a threat to the country after the election is over. >> mr. trump, you're first. >> well, you're right about islam phobia, and that's a shame. but one thing we have to do is we have to make sure that because there is a problem. whether we like it or not, and we can be very politically correct. but whether we like it or not, there is a problem. and we have to be sure that muslims come in and report when they see something going on. when they see hatred going on, that i have to report it. as an example, in san bernardino. many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people who killed 14 and wounded

many, many people. horribly wounded. they'll never be the same. muslims have to report the problems when they see them. and, you know, there is always a reason for everything. if they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country. you look at orlando and the world trade center. go outside, you look at paris. look at this horrible. these are radical islamic terrorists. and she won't even mention the word. and nor will president obama he won't use the term radical islamic terrorism. now, to solve a problem, you to be able to state what the problem is or at least say the name. she won't say the name and president obama won't say the name. but the name is there. it's radical islamic terror. and before you solve it, you have to say the name. >> secretary clinton? >> well, thank you for asking your question. and i've heard this question

from a lot of muslim americans across our country. because unfortunately, there has been a lot of very divisive, dark things said about muslims. and even someone like captain khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country in the united states army has been subject to attack by donald. i want to say just a couple of things. first, we've had muslims in america since george washington. and we've had many successful muslims. we just lost a particularly well-known one with muhammed ali. my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place if you're willing to work hard, you do your part, you contribute to the community. that's what america is. that's what we want america to be for our children and our grandchildren. it's also very shortsighted and

even dangerous to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric that donald trump has about muslims. we need american muslims to be part of our eyes and areas on our front lines. i've worked with a lot of different muslim groups around america. i've met with a lot of them, and i've heard how important it is for them to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country, part of our homeland security. and that's what i want to see. it's also important, i intend to defeat isis, to do so in a coalition with majority muslim nations. right now a lot of those nations are hearing what donald says and wondering why should we cooperate with the americans? and this is a gift to isis and the terrorists. violent jihadist terrorists. we are not at war with islam. and it is a mistake and it plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are.

so i want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else. >> thank you, secretary clinton. mr. trump, in december, you said this. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. your running mate said this week that the muslim ban is no longer your position. that correct? and if it is, was it a mistake to have a religious test? >> first of all, captain khan is an american hero. and if i were president at that time he would be alive today. because unlike her, who voted for the war without knowing what she was doing, i would not have had our people in iraq. iraq was a disaster. so he would have been alive today. the muslim ban is something that

in some form has morphed into an extreme vetting from certain areas of the world. hillary clinton wants to allow -- >> why did it morph into that? no, answer the question. >> do you still believe -- >> i do. will you please explain whether or not the muslim ban still stands? >> it's called extreme vetting. we are going to areas like syria where they're coming in by the tens of thousands because of barack obama and hillary clinton wants to allow a 550% increase over obama. people are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are, where they are from, what their feelings about our country is. and she wants 550% more. this is going to be the great trojan horse of all time. we have enough problems in this country. i believe in building safe zones. i believe in having other people

pay for them as an example, the gulf states who are not carrying their weight, but they have nothing but money. and take care of people. but i don't want to have with all the problems this country has and all of the problems that you see going on, hundreds of thousands of people coming in from syria when we know nothing about them. we know nothing about their values, and we know nothing about their love for our country. >> and secretary clinton, let me ask you about that. because you have asked for an increase from 10 to 65,000 syrian refugees. we know you want tougher vetting. that's not a perfect system. so why take the risk of having those refugees come into the country? >> well, first of all, i will not let anyone into our country that i think pose as risk to us. but there are a lot of refugees, women and children. think of that picture we all saw of that 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he had been bombed by the russian and syrian air forces.

there are children suffering in this catastrophic war, largely, i believe, because of russian aggression. and we need to do our part. we by no means are carrying anywhere near the load that europe and others are. but we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, our intelligence experts, and others. but it is important for us as a policy not to say as donald has said, we're going to ban people based on a religion. how do you do that? we are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. how do we do what he has advocated without causing great distress within our own country? are we going have religious tests when people fly into our

country? and how do we expect to be able to implement those? so i thought that what he said was extremely unwise and even dangerous. and indeed, you can look at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites. and what donald trump says about muslims is used to recruit fighters. because they want to create a war between us. and the final thing, this the 10th or 12th time he has denied being for the war in iraq. well visit on tape. the entire press corps has looked ate him. it has been debunked. >> it has not been debunked. >> it has not been debunked. >> go to hillaryclinton.com and you can see it. >> it was against the war in iraq. you voted for it and you shouldn't have. >> there has been lots of fact checking on that i would like to

move on to an online question. >> she just went about 25 seconds over her time. >> she did not. >> can i respond to this? >> very quickly, please. >> hillary clinton, in terms of coming into our country, we have many criminal illegal aliens. when we want to send them back to their country, their country says we don't want them. in some cases they are murders, drug lords, drug problems. and they don't want them. and hillary clinton when she was secretary of state said that's okay. we can't force it into their country. let me tell you, i'm going to force them right back into their country. they're murderers and some very bad people. and i will tell you very strongly, when bernie sanders said she had bad judgment, she has really bad judgment. because we are letting people into this country that are going to cause problems and crime like you've never seen. we're also letting drugs pour through our southern border at a record clip. at a record clip. and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. i.c.e. just endorsed me. they have never endorsed a presidential candidate. the border patrol agents, 16,500

recently endorsed me. and they endorsed me because i understand the border. she doesn't. she wants amnesty for everybody. come right in. come right over. it's a horrible thing she is doing. she highways got bad judgment is. and honestly, so bad that she should never be president of the united states. that i can tell you. >> thank you, mr. trump. i want to move on. this next question comes from the public through the bipartisan open debate coalition's online forum where americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. this question involves wikileak's release of reported excerpts of secretary clinton's paid speeches which she has refused to release and one line which you purported to say, you need both the public and private position on certain issues. so tu from virginia asks is it okay for politicians to be two-faced? is it accept form a politician to have a private stance on

issues? secretary clinton, your two minutes. >> right. as i recall, that was something i said about abraham lincoln after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie called "lincoln." it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. it was principled and it was strategic. and i was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want to do. and you have to keep working at it. and, yes, president lincoln was trying to convince some people. he used some arguments, convincing other people he used other arguments. that was a great i thought a great display of presidential leadership. but, you know, let's talk about what is really going on here, martha, because our intelligence

community just came out and said in the last few days that the kremlin, meaning putin and the russian government are directing the attacks, the hacking on american accounts to influence our election. and wikileaks is part of that as are other sites where the russians hack information. well don't even know if it's accurate information. and then they put it out. we have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election. and believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected. they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. now maybe because he has praised putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what putin want do. maybe because he wants to do business in moscow. i don't know the reasons. but we deserve answer as.

and we should demand that donald release all of his tax returns to so that people can see what are the entanglements and the financial relationships. >> we're going to get to that later. >> that foreign poyrwers. >> secretary, you're out of time. >> look, she got caught in a total lie. her papers went out to all her friends at the bank, goldman sachs and everybody else. wikileaks, that just came out. and she lied. now she is blaming the lie on the late great abraham lincoln. that's one that i haven't heard. okay, honest abe. honest abe never lied. that's the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. that's a big, big difference we're talking about, some difference. but as far as other elements of what she was saying, i don't know putin. i think it would be great if we get along with russia because we could fight isis together as an

example. but i don't know putin. i notice any time anything wrong happens, they like the say the russians. she doesn't know if it's the russians doing the hacking. maybe there is no hacking. but they always blame russia. and the reason they blame russia because they think they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know nothing about russia. i know about russia, but i know nothing about the inner workings of russia. i don't deal there. i have no business there. i have no loans from russia. i have a great. so great the united states government because of my balance sheet which they actually know very women chose me to do the old post office between the white house and congress, chose me to do the old post office. one of the primary things, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. but i have no loans with russia. you could go to the united states government, and they would probably tell you that. because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development. i had to have. now the taxes are a very simple

thing. first, i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in tax. many of her friends took bigger deductions -- warren buffett took a massive deduction. sorrows, who is a friend of hers took a massive deduction. many of the people that are giving her all this money that she can do many more commercials than me, gave her, took massive deductions. i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. but, but, as soon as my routine audit is finished, i'll release my returns. i'll be very proud. to. >> thank you, new trump. >> we have a question from spencer moss. spencer? >> good evening. my question is what specific tax provisions will you change to ensure the wealthiest americans pay their fair share in taxes. >> get rid of carried interest. one of the greatest provisions for people like me, i give up a lot when i run because i knockout the tax code. she could have done this years

ago. she was the united states senator. she complains that donald trump took advantage of the tax code. why didn't you change it when you were a senator? the reason is that all your friends take the same advantage i took. you have provisions that we could change. you wouldn't change it because all of these people gave you the money so you can take negative ads on donald trump. i say that about a lot of things. i heard hillary complaining about so many different things. we should have done this. for third years she did this stuff and never will change. she never will change. we are getting rid of carried interest. lower taxes because it's important for corporations because we have massive corporations leaving. the middle ones can't form. we are getting rid of corporations and bringing the tax rate down from 35% to 15%. we are cutting taxes for the middle class and cutting them

bigley for the middle class. hillary clinton is raising your taxes, you can look at me, she is raising your taxes really high. and what that's going to do is a disaster for the country. she is raising the taxes and i'm lowering the taxes. that is a big difference. we are going to be thriving again. we have no growth in this country. there is no growth. if china has a gdp of 7% it's like a national catastrophe. down 1%. that's like no growth. we are going lower in my opinion. a lot has to do with the fact that our taxes are so high. about the highest in the world and i'm bringing them down to one of the lower in the world. it's so important. one of the most important things we can do. she is raising everybody's taxes massively. >> secretary clinton you have two minutes. what specific provisions would you change to make sure the wealthiest americans pay their taxes.

>> well everything you've heard from donald is not true. i'm sorry i have to keep saying this. he lives in an alternative reality. and it is amusing to hear someone that hasn't paid taxes in years -- what he's going to do. his plan will give the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts they have ever had. more than the bush tax cuts by at least a factor of at least two. donald always takes care of donald and people like donald. this would be a massive gift. indeed the way that he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on middle class families. millions of middle class families. here's what i want to do. i said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year and that's the vast majority of americans as you know will have their taxes raised. we have to go where the money is.

that's where people have taken advantage of every break in the tax code. when i was a senator, i did vote to close corporate loopholes. i voted to close one of the loopholes he took advantage of when he claimed a billion dollar loss. that enabled him to avoid paying taxes. i want to have a tax on people who are making a million dollars and it's called the buffett rule. warren buffett said someone like you should not be paying a lower tax rate than his secretary. i want to have a surcharge on incomes above 5 million. we have to make up for lost time we because i want to invest you in in hardworking families. i think it has been unfortunate, but it's happened that since the great recession, the gains have all gone to the top. and we need to reverse that. people like donald who paid in taxes and zero for the vets and zero for the military and health

and education is wrong. we want to make sure no corporation and no individual can get away without paying his fair share for our country. >> i want to give the chance to response. the last month, taxes were the number one issue on facebook for the first time. the "new york times" published your tax returns and show you claimed a loss which means you could have avoided paying income taxes for years and you said you paid state and employee and real estate and property taxes. did you use that $916 million loss to avoid paying taxes? >> of course i do. and so do all of her donors. i know many of her donors. they take massive write offs. a lot lot of my write off was depreciation and she always allowed this. the people that give her all

this money won it. i understand the tax code better than anyone and it's complex. hillary clinton has friends that want the provisions. including the carried interest provision. it's important to wall street people and they want the carried interest provision and it's interesting why she's leaving carried interest. i pay tremendous numbers of taxes and i used it and so did warren buffett and george sorrows and the other people that hillary is getting money from. i won't mention names because they are rich, but not famous. >> can you say how many years you have avoided paying taxes? >> no. i pay tax and federal tax too. i have a write off and a lot is depreciation. i love depreciation. she has given it to us. if she had a problem, for 30

years she talks about health care. why didn't you do something about it. why didn't she do something about this? she doesn't do anything about anything other than talk. it's all talk and no action. and again, bernie sanders, it's really bad judgment. she made bad judgment not only on taxes, but libya, on syria, on iraq. her and obama whether you like it or not, the way they got out of iraq, the vacuum they left, that's why isis formed in the first place. they started from the little area and now they are in 32 different nations. congratulations. great job. >> i want you to respond, hillary clinton. >> well, here we go again. i have been in favor of getting rid of carried interest for years starting when i was a senator from new york. that's not the point here. >> why didn't you do it? >> because a senator with a

republican president. >> you could have done it. if you were an effective senator, you could have done it. you were not. >> she didn't interrupt you. >> under our constitution, presidents have veto power. he has now said repeatedly 30 years this and 30 years that. let me talk about my 30 years in public service. i'm very glad to do so. eight million kids every year have health insurance because when i was first lady i worked with democrats and republicans to create the children's health insurance program. hundreds of thousands of kids have a chance to be adopted because i worked to change our adoption and foster care system. i worked to rebuild new york after 9/11 and get health care for the first responders who were suffering because they ran

towards danger. hundreds of thousands have health care because of work that i did and children have safer medicines because i was able to pass a law that required the dosing to be more carefully done. when i was secretary of state, i went around the world advocating for our country and advocating for women's rights to make sure that women had a decent chance to have a better life and negotiated a treaty with russia to lower nuclear weapons. 400 piece are of legislation have my name on it as a responsor or cosponsor when i was a senator for eight years. i worked very hard and was proud to be reelected by a bigger margin than i had been elected the first time. i will take that work as president in finding common ground. you have to get along with

people to get things done in washington. i have proven that i can and for 30d 30 years i have produced results for the people. >> we will move on to syria. both of you have mentioned that. >> i think we should -- >> mr. trump, we will go on. mr. trump, we are going to move on. the heart breaking video of a 5-year-old syrian boy sitting in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an air strike in aleppo focused on the world's attention on the horrors of the war in syria with 136 nil million views on facebook alone. 400 people have been killed at least 100 of them children. days ago the state department called for a war crimes investigation of the syrian regime of bashar al assad and

russia for their bombardment of aleppo. this next question comes through facebook. diane from pennsylvania asks, if you were president what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? wasn't it like the holocaust where the u.s. waited too long? secretary clinton, we will begin with your two minutes. >> the situation in syria is catastrophic and we see the results of the regime. the partnership with the iranians on the ground and the russians in the air bombarding places in particular aleppo, about 250,000 people are still left. there is a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo in order to eliminate the

last of the syrian rebels who were really holding out against the assad regime. russia hasn't paid any attention to isis. they are interested in keeping assad in power. i when i was secretary of state advocated and i advocate today a no-fly and safe zone. we need leverage with the russians because they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is leverage over them. we have to work more slowsly with our partners and allies on the ground. i want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambition and aggressiveness of russia. they decided it is all in in syria and decided who they want to see become president of the united states too and it's not me. i stood up to russia and have taken on putin and others and i

would do that as president. i think wherever we can cooperate with russia, that's fine and i did as secretary of state and that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons and the sanctions putting a lid on the program without firing a single shot. i would go with more leverage than we have now. i support the efforts to investigate for crimes, war crimes committed by the syrians and the russians and try to hold them accountable. >> she was there with the line in the sand. >> i wasn't. i hate to interrupt you. at some point we need to get the facts out. >> perhaps sadly obama probably still listened. i don't think he would listen very much anymore. obama draws the line in the sand. it was laughed at all over the world what happened. with that being said, she talks

tough against russia, but our nuclear program has fallen behind and they have gone wild. not good. russia is new in terms of nuclear and we are told and tired and exhausted in terms of nuclear. a very bad thing. she talks tough. really tough against putin and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't know who the rebels are. every time we take rebels whether it's in iraq or anywhere else, we're arming people. you know what happens? they end up being worse than the people. look at libya. gadhafi is out and it's a mess. isis has a good chunk of their oil. i'm sure you have heard that. it was a disaster. the fact is almost everything she has done has been a mistake and it has been a disaster.

if you look at russia, take a look at russia and look at what they did this week and she wasn't there, but possibly consulted. we sign a peace treaty and everyone is excited, but what russia did with assad and iran with the dumbest deal i have seen in the history of deal making with $150 billion with the $1.7 billion in cash, enough to fill up this room, but look at that deal. iran and russia are against us. she wants to fight. she wants to fight for rebels. there is one problem. you don't ian know who the rebels are. >> mr. trump, your two minutes is up. >> i don't like assad at all, but assad is killing isis. russia is killing isis and iran is killing isis and they have lined up because of weak foreign policy. >> let me repeat the question. if you were president, what would you do about syria and the

humanitarian crisis in aleppo and i want to remind you what your running mate said. he said provocations need to be met with american strength and if russia continues to be involved along with the syrian forces, the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the assad regime. >> he and i haven't spoken and i disagree. right now, syria is fighting isis. we have people that want to fight both at the same time. syria is no longer syria. it's russia and iran and obama made into a powerful nation and a rich nation, very, very quickly. i believe we have to get isis. we have to worry about isis before we can get too much more involved. she had a chance to do something, they had a chance.

>> what are do you think will happen if aleppo falls? >> aleppo is a disaster. >> what will happen if it falls? >> it has fallen. it basically has fallen. you take a look at mosul and the biggest problem i have with the stupidity of the foreign policy, they take a lot of them in mosul. we have announcements out of washington and iraq. we will be attacking. all of these bad leaders from isis are leaving. why can't they do it quietly and do the attack and make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made inform the american public that we have knocked out the leaders and have a tremendous success. people leave. why do they have to say we are going to be attacking mosul in four to six weeks. how stupid is our country? >> there are reasons the military does that. psychological warfare. >> i can't think of any.

i have 200 generals and admirals endorsing me. i have 21 congressional medal of honor recipients who endorse me. we talk about it all the time. they understand. why can't they do something secretively where they go in and knockout the leadership. why would these people stay there. >> tell me what your strategy is it. >> it's the harbor between iraq and mosul, this is why where they think the leaders are. they are not staying there anymore. they are gone. everybody is talking about how iraq which is our leadership goes in to fight mosul. with the 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. general george patton and douglas mac arthur are spinning at the stupidity of what we are doing in the mideast.

>> secretary clinton, you want assad to go and advocated army rebels, but it may be too late for aleppo. you talk about diplomatic efforts, those that failed, ceasefires have failed. would you introduce the threat of u.s. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the assad regime to back up diplomacy? >> i would not use american ground forces in syria. i think that would be a very serious mistake. i don't think american troops should be holding territory which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. i don't think that is a smart strategy. the use of special forces and the use of enablers and trainers in iraq that had positive effects are very much in our interests. i do support what is happening. >> what would you do different than than president obama?

>> martha, i hope that by the time i am president that we will have pushed isis out of iraq. i do think that there is a good chance that we can take mosul. donald said he knows more about isis than the generals. no, he doesn't. there are a lot of very important planning going on and some of it is to signal to the sunnis in the area as well as kurdish fires that we all need to be in this. that takes a lot of planning and preparation. i would go after baghdadi. i would target baghdadi. i think our targeting of al qaeda leaders and i was involved in highly classified ones made a difference. i think that could help. i would consider arming the kurds. the kurds have been our best partners in syria as well as

iraq. i know there is a lot of concern about that in some circles, but they should have the equipment they need so that kurdish and fair fighters on the ground is the way we take out of iraq. >> she went over a minute over and you don't stop her. when i go one second over -- >> you had many answers. >> it's very interesting. >> we have a question from james carter. >> my question is, do you believe you can be a devoted president to all the people in the united states. >> that are question begins with mr. trump. >> absolutely.

she calls our people deplorable. a large group. and irredeemable. i will be a president for all of our people. i will be a people who will turn our inner cities around and give strength to people and give economics to people and bring jobs back. nafta is perhaps the greatest disaster trade deal in the history of the world. not of this country. it stripped us of manufacturing jobs. we lost our jobs and our money and our plans. it is a disaster. now she wants to sign tpp even though she said she is for it. she called it the gold standard. it turns out she lie and said she didn't say it. they said that she lied. and she lied. she lied about a lot of things. i would be a president for all of the people. african-americans, the inner cities. devastating what's happening to our inner cities. as usual she talks about it and

nothing happens. she doesn't get it done. the same with the latino americans. hispanic americans. they talk and don't get it done. it's 45% poverty. african-americans 45% poverty in the american cities. the education is a disaster. jobs are essentially nonexistent. and i have been saying in big speeches where i have 20 and 30,000 people. what do you have to lose? it can't get worse? she has been talking about the inner cities for 25 years. nothing is going to happen. let me tell you, if she is president of the united states, it's going to be talk. all of her friends, the taxes we are talking about. i would get it by osmosis. she is not doing me favors, but by doing the others favors she is doing me favors. she is all talk and it doesn't get done.

take a look at upstate new york. it turned out to be a disaster. >> you have two minutes. >> 67% of the people voted to reelect me when i ran for my second term and i was very proud and humbled by that. mr. carter, i have tried my entire life to do what i can to support children and families. right out of law school i went to work for the children's defense fund. donald talks a lot about the 30 years i have been in public service. i am proud of that. i started off as a young lawyer working against discrimination against african-american children and schools and in the criminal justice system. i worked to make sure that kids with disabilities could get a public education and something i cared very much about. i worked with latinos, one of my favorite jobs in politics was in

south texas was registering latino citizens to register to vote. i have a deep devotion to use your correct words. to making sure that every american feels like he or she has a place in our country. i think when you look at the letters that i get, a lot of people are worried that maybe they wouldn't have a place in donald trump's america. they write me and one woman wrote me about her son, felix. she adopted him from ethiopia and he is 10 years old and this is the only country he has ever known. he said will he send me back to ethiopia if he gets elected? children listen to go back to the very, very first question.

there is a lot of fear. in fact teachers and parents are calling it the trump effect. bullying is up and a lot of people are feeling uneasy and kids are expressing concerns. first and foremost, i will do everything i can to reach out to everybody. democrats, republicans, independents, and people across our country. if you don't vote for me, i will still be your president. i want to be the best president i can for every american. >> your two minutes is up. what donald trump said is a comment you made saying half of donald trump supporters are deplorables. islam phobic and sexist and you didn't express regret on using the term deplorables. how can you unite a country you have written off tens of millions of americans? >> within hours, i was sorry for the way i talked about that. my argument is not with his supporters and it's with him and the divisive and hateful campaign has run. and the sin siting violence at

his rallies and the very brutal comments about not just women, but all americans. all kinds of americans. what he said about african-americans and latinos and muslims and pows and immigrants and people with disabilities he never apologized for. i do think that a lot of tone and tenor. i am proud of the campaigns bernie sanders and i ran. we ran a campaign based on issues and insults. he is supporting me 100% because we talked about what we wanted to do. we might have had differences and a lot of debate, but we believed that we could make the country better and i was proud of that. >> we have a divided nation. we have a very divided nation. you look at charlotte and baltimore and you look at the violence taking place in the inner cities. chicago. you look at washington, d.c.

we have an increase in murder within our cities, the biggest in 45 years. we have a divided nation because of people like her. believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart. when she said deplorables, she meant it. when she said irredeemable, they are irredeemable. you didn't mention that, but that might have been worse. she has tremendous hatred. this country cannot take another four years of barack obama and that's what you are getting with her. >> let me follow-up with you. you wrote in one of your books that the most important characteristic of a good leader is discipline. you said if a leader doesn't have it, they won't be one for long. in the days after the first debate, you sent out a series of tweets from 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 to check out a sex tape. is that the discipline? >> no it wasn't. it was check out this person you

built up to be this wonderful girl scout. who was no girl scout. when she said 3:00 in the morning, look at benghazi. she said who is going to answer the call at 3:00 in the morning. guess what? she didn't answer. when ambassador stevens -- she said she was awake of at 3:00 in the morning. she sent a tweet out at 3:00 in the morning, but i won't mention that. she said she will be awake. we will answer the call at 3:00 in the morning. guess what happened, ambassador stevens sent 600 requests for help and the only one she talked to was sydney blumenthal who is her friend and not a good guy, by the way. she shouldn't be talking about that. tweeting happens to be a modern day form of communication. you can like it or not. between facebook and twitter i have 25 million people. it's an effective way of communication. you can put it down, but it's an effective form of communication.

i'm not unproud of it. >> mrs. clinton, does mr. trump have the discipline to be a good leader? >> no. >> i'm shocked to hear that. >> it's not only my opinion, but the opinion of many others. national security experts, republicans, former republican members of congress. it's in part because those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job up close and know how difficult it is and it's not just because i watched my husband take a $300 billion deficit and turn it into a $200 billion surplus and 23 million new jobs were create and incomes went up for everybody. everybody. african-american incomes went up 33%. i worked with george w. bush after 9-11 and i was very proud that when i told them what the city need and what we needed to recover and he said you got it

and he stuck with me. i have worked and admire president obama. he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. that was a terrible time for our country. >> secretary clinton -- we are moving on. >> family wealth was wiped out. we are back on the right track. he would send us back into a recession with his tax plan. >> secretary clinton, we are almost out of time and we have another question. mr. trump, we are moving on. >> it is our country is the slowest growth. >> mr. trump, we want to get to the audience. thank you very much, both of you. we have another audience question. beth miller has a question for both candidates. >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize size

the most important aspect of selecting a supreme court justice? >> we begin with your two minutes, secretary clinton. >> thank you. you are right. this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world really works and have real life experience and have not just been in a big law firm or clerk for a judge and gotten on the bench, but maybe they tried more cases and actually understand what people are up against. i think the current court has gone in the wrong direction. i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united and get dark unaccountable money out of our politics. donald doesn't agree with that. i would like the court to understand that voting rights are a big problem in many parts of the country. we don't do everything we can to

make it possible for people of color and older people and young people to be able to exercise their franchise. i want a supreme supreme court that will stick with row v wade and a supreme court that will stick with marriage equality. donald put forth of the names of people he would consider. among the ones he suggested would reverse row v wade and marriage equality. that would be a terrible mistake and take us backwards. i want a court that understands because you are wealthy you can give more money to something didn't mean you have or should have any more rights than anything else. i have clear views about what i want to see to change the balance on the supreme court and i regreet deeply that the senate has not done its job and not permitted a vote on the person that president obama, a highly

qualified person, they have not given him a vote to have the full compliment of nine supreme court justices. that was a dereliction of duty. i hope they will see their way to doing it, but if i am so fortunate as to be president, i will immediately move to make sure that we fill that. >> secretary clinton. thank you. you are out of time. >> justice scalia, great judge. he died recently and we have a vacancy. i am looking to appoint judges in the mold of justice scalia. i am looking for judges and have picked 20 of them. so that people would say. highly respected. highly thought of and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody. people that will respect the constitution of the united

states. and i think that this is so important. also the second amendment that is under siege by people like hillary clinton will help the second amendment and what it stands for. hillary mentioned contributions. just so you could, i will have in my race more than $100 million put in of my money. i am not taking big money from all of these corporations like she is doing. i am putting in by the time it's finished, more than 100 million dollars invested. we are raising monare for the republican party and doing tremendously. $61 or so average. why doesn't she make $250,000 or more being in office? why isn't she funding or putting 10 or $30 million into your campaign.

it's $30 million less for special dollars that will tell the you what to do and be a nice sign to the american public. why aren't you putting money in? you made a lot of it because of the fact that you have been in office. you made a lot being secretary of state. why aren't you putting money into your campaign. >> we will get on to one more question. >> the question was about the supreme court. i respect the second amendment and i believe there should be background checks and we should close the gun show loophole. and close the online loophole. >> we have many more questions. >> more question about energy policy. ken? >> what steps will your energy

policy take to meet our energy needs while at the same time reminding environmentally friendly and minimizing job loss for fossil power plant workers. >> such a great question because energy is under siege by the obama administration. under absolute siege. the epa is killing these energy companies. foreign companies are buying so many of our different plants and taking care of their oil. we are killing, absolutely killing our energy business in this country. i am all for alternative energy including wind and solar, etc. we need much more than wind and solar. we look at the minors. hillary clinton wants to put the miners out of business. there is a thing called clean coal. coal lasts for 1,000 years in this country. we have natural gas and other things because of technology. we have found over the last

seven years, we have found tremendous wealth. i will bring our energy companies back and they will be able to compete and make money and pay off our national debt and budget deficits that are tremendous. we are putting our energy companies out of business. we have to bring back our workers. you take a look at what's happening to steel and the cost of steel and china dumping vast amounts steel all over the united states which is killing our steelworkers and steel companies. we have to guard our energy companies. we have to make it possible. the epa is so restrictive that they are putting our energy companies out of business. all you have to do is go to west virginia or places like ohio

which is phenomenal or places like pennsylvania and you see what they are doing. miners and others in the energy business. it's a disgrace. absolute disgrace. >> secretary clinton, two minutes. >> that was very interesting. first of all, china is dusting waste in the u.s. and donald trump is buying it to put american steelworkers out of business. that's something i fought against and have a trade prosecutor to make sure we don't get taken advantage of by china or steel or anything else. you know because it sounds like you are in the business or aware of people in the business. we are now for the first time energy independent. we are not dependent on the mideast, but they control a lot of prices. the price of oil has been way down and that has a damaging

effect on the oil companies. we are producing a lot of natural gas that serves as a bridge to more renewable fuels and that's an important transition. we have got to remain energy independent. it gives us much more power and freedom than to be worried about what goes on in the mideast. we have enough worried over there without having to worry about that. i have a comprehensive energy policy, but it really does include fighting climate change because that is a serious problem. i support moving towards more clean renewable energy as quickly as we can. i think we can be the 21st century super power and create millions of new jobs and businesses. i want to be sure that we don't leave people behind. i'm the only candidate from the very beginning of this campaign who had a plan to help us revitalize coal country. those coal miners and their

fathers and grandfathers they dug that coal out, a lot of them lost their lives. they were injured. they turn the lights on and powered our factories. i don't want to walk away from them. we have to do something for them. the price of coal is down worldwide. we have to look at this and that's what i have proposed. i hope you will go to hillary clinton.com and read my entire policy. >> we sneak in one more question from karl becker. >> my question to both of you is, regardless of the current rhetoric, would either of you name one positive thing that you respect in one another? >> mr. trump, would you like to go first? >> i certainly will.